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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=IT link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Nicola e Antonio,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>grazie per la risposta immediata.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Ho scoperto che il problema si presenta a coppie di IP; non ne son certo, ma forse anche il protocollo/porta sono presi in considerazione.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><br>Quindi è chiaramente un problema di hashing, direi tra il router di Level3 e il router di Sungard.<br><br><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Qualcuno ha la possibilità di fare delle trace verso 209.235.9.7 e 209.235.8.34 passando da bar1/bar2 di Level3?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Grazie a tutti,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Giovanni.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:8.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#666666'><o:p> </o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Arnoldi, Nicola [mailto:Nicola.Arnoldi@sky.uk] <br><b>Sent:</b> venerdì 29 gennaio 2016 10:36<br><b>To:</b> Giovanni Proscia<br><b>Cc:</b> itnog@lists.itnog.it<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [ITNOG] Pacchetti persi con IP dispari su rete Level3<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>A me suona molto come un problema di hashing. <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Qualche tipo di load-balancing (o ECMP o etherchannel) che effettua un hash sugli IP. Se cosi’ fosse, e’ evidente che uno dei percorsi su cui il load-balancing viene effettuato ha dei problemi.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Saluti<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Nicola<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal>On 29 Jan 2016, at 10:17, Giovanni Proscia <<a href="mailto:g.proscia@mainsoft.it">g.proscia@mainsoft.it</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Ciao a tutti,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>scrivo per far presente un problema che potrebbe coinvolgere anche voi su connessioni verso gli Stati Uniti.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Stiamo rilevando da fine Dicembre una perdita di pacchetti su connessioni che transitano su Level3 dal loro nodo di Washington.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Se la connessione è instaurata con un IPv4 che termina con un numero dispari i pacchetti non passano, se pari la connessione viene stabilita correttamente.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Non ne sono certo, ma sembrerebbe che i pacchetti DNS passino nella maniera contraria, quindi solo con IP dispari.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Allego due trace e due ping.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Il primo con IP pari (es. *.*.*.250), che raggiunge correttamente la destinazione:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Tracing route to<span class=apple-converted-space> </span><a href="http://sccp.skillport.com/"><span style='color:purple'>sccp.skillport.com</span></a><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>[209.235.9.7]</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>over a maximum of 30 hops:</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> 1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 10.200.0.2</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> 2 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms vl-04.1.<a href="http://edge.milan.mainsoft.it/"><span style='color:purple'>edge.milan.mainsoft.it</span></a><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>[185.45.209.3]</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> 3 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms <span class=apple-converted-space> </span><a href="http://xe-10-0-1.bar2.milan1.level3.net/"><span style='color:purple'>xe-10-0-1.bar2.milan1.level3.net</span></a><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>[213.242.65.177</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>]</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> 4 95 ms 95 ms 95 ms <span class=apple-converted-space> </span><a href="http://ae-21-3603.car1.washington1.level3.net/"><span style='color:purple'>ae-21-3603.car1.washington1.level3.net</span></a><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>[4.69.158</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>.133]</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> 5 99 ms 99 ms 100 ms <span class=apple-converted-space> </span><a href="http://sungard-net.car1.washington1.level3.net/"><span style='color:purple'>sungard-net.car1.washington1.level3.net</span></a><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>[4.34.23</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>6.86]</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> 6 103 ms 104 ms 103 ms <span class=apple-converted-space> </span><a href="http://phl2cr1-te-0-0-1-2.sgns.net/"><span style='color:purple'>phl2cr1-te-0-0-1-2.sgns.net</span></a><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>[66.179.228.222]</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> 7 103 ms 102 ms 104 ms <span class=apple-converted-space> </span><a href="http://bosir6-xe-1-2-0-0.sgns.net/"><span style='color:purple'>bosir6-xe-1-2-0-0.sgns.net</span></a><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>[69.164.83.170]</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> 8 103 ms 101 ms 101 ms <span class=apple-converted-space> </span><a href="http://relayer.skillport.com/"><span style='color:purple'>relayer.skillport.com</span></a><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>[209.235.10.36]</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> 9 102 ms 102 ms 102 ms <span class=apple-converted-space> </span><a href="http://sccp.skillport.com/"><span style='color:purple'>sccp.skillport.com</span></a><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>[209.235.9.7]</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Trace complete.</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Pinging<span class=apple-converted-space> </span><a href="http://sccp.skillport.com/"><span style='color:purple'>sccp.skillport.com</span></a><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>[209.235.9.7] with 32 bytes of data:</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Reply from 209.235.9.7: bytes=32 time=105ms TTL=243</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Reply from 209.235.9.7: bytes=32 time=102ms TTL=243</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Reply from 209.235.9.7: bytes=32 time=103ms TTL=243</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Reply from 209.235.9.7: bytes=32 time=104ms TTL=243</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Il secondo con IP dispari (es. *.*.*.251), che si ferma sulla rete di Level3.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Tracing route to<span class=apple-converted-space> </span><a href="http://sccp.skillport.com/"><span style='color:purple'>sccp.skillport.com</span></a><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>[209.235.9.7]</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>over a maximum of 30 hops:</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> 1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 10.200.0.2</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> 2 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms vl-04.1.<a href="http://edge.milan.mainsoft.it/"><span style='color:purple'>edge.milan.mainsoft.it</span></a><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>[185.45.209.3]</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> 3 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms <span class=apple-converted-space> </span><a href="http://xe-10-0-1.bar2.milan1.level3.net/"><span style='color:purple'>xe-10-0-1.bar2.milan1.level3.net</span></a><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>[213.242.65.177</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>]</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> 4 259 ms 192 ms 219 ms <span class=apple-converted-space> </span><a href="http://ae-21-3603.car1.washington1.level3.net/"><span style='color:purple'>ae-21-3603.car1.washington1.level3.net</span></a><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>[4.69.158</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>.133]</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> 5 * * * Request timed out.</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> 6 * * * Request timed out.</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> 7 * * * Request timed out.</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> 8 * * * Request timed out.</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> 9 * * * Request timed out.</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Pinging<span 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